Sword & Grace Unscripted

Sword & Grace Unscripted

Sword & Grace Unscripted is a podcast for women who lead businesses, ministries, churches, and organizations while carrying both conviction and compassion.

This is not a platform for polished success stories. It is a space for honest, grounded conversations about the real cost of leadership, the unseen weight women carry, and the grace required to remain faithful through pressure, complexity, building and rebuilding.

I am your host, Tina J. Smith, a 𝘓𝘪𝘤𝘦𝘯𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘴𝘵 of over 20 years, an international 𝘛𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘢𝘊𝘰𝘢𝘤𝘩 for women, 𝘕𝘦𝘶𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘤𝘪𝘦𝘯𝘤𝘦 𝘊𝘰𝘢𝘤𝘩 for pastors/ministry leaders, Author, and the Founder and CEO of both a for-profit organization and a not-for-profit charitable organization. I have spent decades working across mental health, leadership, and ministry contexts, walking alongside men and women through trauma, formation, leadership strain, collapse, and restoration. I am also a mother to two adult children, one teenager, and a mom to a childhood cancer survivor. My work is shaped by lived leadership, faith, and responsibility carried in real life.

This podcast is especially for the stories that have been hard. The moments that left you betrayed, crying, and undone. The seasons where you stepped off the stage, walked out of the boardroom, closed the door, and carried pain no one saw and silence you felt you had to keep. These are the stories other Christian women need to hear so we can heal, walk with humility, love well, stand stronger, and rebuild for the Kingdom.

𝘚𝘸𝘰𝘳𝘥 & 𝘎𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘦 𝘜𝘯𝘴𝘤𝘳𝘪𝘱𝘵𝘦𝘥 features women who have built, shepherded, stewarded, or carried responsibility for others and who are willing to speak with humility and truth about how leadership has shaped their faith, nervous system, relationships, and sense of calling. We value formation over performance and wisdom refined through lived experience.

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Author and ministry leader Karen Souter, writer of Blood Bought, joins Tina Bender on Sword & Grace Unscripted for a powerful conversation about reaching the people the Church has often struggled to reach. This episode goes beyond Karen’s testimony. We talk about Christian leadership, church outreach, redemption, shame, addiction, ministry, reaching the lost, and what it means to take the hope of Jesus beyond the four walls of the Church. Karen’s story has brought her into places many people in ministry may never see up close. She understands what it is to carry shame, rejection, brokenness, and the belief that your story may have placed you beyond restoration. But Jesus met her there. And now she is using her story to reach people who may never walk through the doors of a church on their own. In this conversation, Karen and I wrestle with questions I believe matter deeply for the Church and especially for those of us who lead: • How do we reach people who do not feel safe walking into a church? • What does…

Episodes

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Who Will Reach the People the Church Struggles to Reach? | Karen Souter, Blood Bought

Author and ministry leader Karen Souter, writer of Blood Bought, joins Tina Bender on Sword & Grace Unscripted for a powerful conversation about reaching the people the Church has often struggled to reach. This episode goes beyond Karen’s testimony. We talk about Christian leadership, church outreach, redemption, shame, addiction, ministry, reaching the lost, and what it means to take the hope of Jesus beyond the four walls of the Church. Karen’s story has brought her into places many people in ministry may never see up close. She understands what it is to carry shame, rejection, brokenness, and the belief that your story may have placed you beyond restoration. But Jesus met her there. And now she is using her story to reach people who may never walk through the doors of a church on their own. In this conversation, Karen and I wrestle with questions I believe matter deeply for the Church and especially for those of us who lead: • How do we reach people who do not feel safe walking into a church? • What does…

18 Sep 2026
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Find Your Voice: Escape the Cave

The conversation delves into the challenges and triumphs of women in ministry, particularly those called to the prophetic mantle. It explores the societal shift, struggles with owning the prophetic mantle, breaking free from limiting voices, finding voice and legacy, the journey of healing and growth, and stepping out of the comfort zone. The conversation delves into the themes of unexpected loss, grief, closure, identity, and reclaiming one's sense of self. It explores the emotional and spiritual journey of women navigating through these experiences and finding strength in their faith. Most importantly, finding your voice the the Lord has given you. Join Lori Dixon, Visionary Kingdom Publisher, Prophetic Wisdom Thera-coach at www.walkwithlori.com Takeaways Embracing the prophetic call is a journey of healing and growth. Women in ministry face societal challenges and struggle to own their prophetic mantle. Unexpected loss can lead to deep grief and a need for closure. Grief and responsibility can shape a…

28 Aug 2026
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Divorce Didn't Disqualify You (Part Two)

What if divorce wasn't the end of your story, but the beginning of healing, restoration, and discovering who God created you to be? In Part 2 of this powerful conversation on Sword & Grace Unscripted, Tina Bender continues her conversation with Pastor Jessica Toach and Dr. Gwendolyn Henry about healing after divorce, grieving what was lost, and finding your identity beyond marriage. They talk honestly about the grief that comes with divorce, the lessons learned from past relationships, preparing yourself for healthy relationships, and refusing to allow divorce to disqualify you from your calling. They also address Christian women in leadership who have been pushed into the shadows because of divorce—and the importance of knowing that God has not changed His mind about your destiny. If you're walking through divorce, separation, grief, or rebuilding your life after a broken marriage, this conversation will remind you that divorce is not a dead end. In This Episode: Healing and grieving after divorce Learning…

14 Aug 2026
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When Covenant Becomes Bondage: Finding Freedom After Divorce (Part 1)

What happens when the marriage you believed God joined together becomes the place where you feel trapped? In this powerful and vulnerable episode of Sword & Grace Unscripted, Tina Bender sits down with Pastor Jessica Toach and Dr. Gwendolyn Henry to have an honest conversation about marriage, divorce, shame, healing, and what it really means to be equally yoked. Both women share their personal journeys through divorce and the painful realization that sometimes we make relationship decisions from places of brokenness, unresolved wounds, or religious expectations. If you've ever wondered whether God can restore you after divorce, whether you can rebuild after a broken covenant, or whether your story is finished because your marriage ended, this conversation is for you. Part 1 sets the foundation. Part 2 takes the story even deeper. In This Episode: Marriage, divorce, and the weight of Christian expectations What it really means to be equally yoked Women carrying the weight of marriage and ministry Discovering…

13 Aug 2026
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Who Gets Access? Discerning the Voices Influencing Your Assignment

The conversation explores the significance of recognizing influential voices, defining relationship roles, and discerning access and relationship boundaries. It delves into the impact of sharing personal testimony, Jesus' example of relationship circles, and the challenge of drawing out the gold in others. It also addresses the endurance required in building from the ground up and maintaining a clean heart amid betrayal, emphasizing the sacred space between an individual and God. The conversation delves into the themes of overcoming betrayal, the challenges of apostolic leadership, the importance of consecration and intimacy with God, and the distinction between discernment and suspicion. It emphasizes the need to prioritize relationship with God and stay focused on one's own journey without falling into the trap of comparison. Takeaways Recognize the importance of discerning access and influence in relationships. Understand the challenge of drawing out the gold in others and the endurance required in…

30 Jul 2026