Conversations

Conversations

Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption. Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling. Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
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Episode's summary

Radio host Robyn Bailey shares her deeply personal journey, from the influence of her family's drive for self-sufficiency and her early career navigating a male-dominated industry to the profound impact of loss. She reflects on her marriage to Tony, the challenges of being a working mother, and the tragic circumstances surrounding his suicide and the impact of concussions. Robyn also discusses finding resilience through community support and a transformative trip to Africa with her sons. The episode concludes with her reflections on her relationship with Sean, comparing the suddenness of Tony's death to Sean's peaceful passing, and the enduring lessons of strength learned from her mother.

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Highlights

I think I wanted to do something in the media, but being print and magazines were going to be beyond me.

00:05:39 · Robyn explains how her dyslexia influenced her decision to pursue radio over print journalism.

You cannot be what you cannot see.

00:12:18 · Robyn highlights the difficulty of female advancement in radio when there were no female leaders to emulate.

And if he said, I'm a stay-at-home dad, people would literally turn around and walk.

00:16:10 · The speaker describes the intense social judgment and sexism Tony experienced while acting as a primary caregiver.

It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

00:31:41 · The speaker reflects on the tragedy of suicide and the lasting impact left on the surviving family members.

She showed me how. And she didn't teach me. She showed me how. that you get your big girl pants on and you get up, you get up, you dress up, you show up.

00:50:05 · The speaker credits her mother's example for teaching her the resilience needed to face life's hardships.

Episodes

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How to keep living when life falls apart

Radio host Robyn Bailey shares her deeply personal journey, from the influence of her family's drive for self-sufficiency and her early career navigating a male-dominated industry to the profound impact of loss. She reflects on her marriage to Tony, the challenges of being a working mother, and the tragic circumstances surrounding his suicide and the impact of concussions. Robyn also discusses finding resilience through community support and a transformative trip to Africa with her sons. The episode concludes with her reflections on her relationship with Sean, comparing the suddenness of Tony's death to Sean's peaceful passing, and the enduring lessons of strength learned from her mother.

16 Oct 2026
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Encore: Inside the minds of the fish who sleep, have friends, and know it's the weekend

Marine biologist Dr. Cullen Brown explores the complex sensory and cognitive worlds of fish, revealing their ability to communicate through sound, perceive advanced colors, and utilize smell and taste for social identification. The episode delves into the 'oddity effect' and the sophisticated social learning observed in species like salmon and manta rays. The conversation further examines the intelligence of marine life, debunking myths about short-term memory and discussing the capacity for self-recognition. Dr. Brown also highlights the intense behaviors of Port Jackson sharks and discusses the significant ethical implications for animal welfare legislation based on fish consciousness.

15 Oct 2026
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How I decentred men and fell in love with my friends instead of another f*ckboy

Dee Salmon explores her personal history, beginning with the whirlwind romance of her parents—an Australian ballet dancer and a Russian dancer—and the challenges of growing up in a rigid, emotionally unpredictable household. She reflects on how these early dynamics shaped her views on love and self-worth during her teenage years. The episode follows Dee's journey through a traumatic car accident and the isolation of COVID-19 lockdowns, periods that ultimately led to a profound period of self-discovery. By breaking unhealthy dating patterns and embracing therapy, she transitioned from a people-pleasing 'cool girl' to a person with strong boundaries, eventually finding a healthy, low-pressure relationship and an expanded definition of romance.

14 Oct 2026
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A little girl with a life split in three — how Mimi made it [PART II]

Mimi Kua discusses her transition from architecture to journalism, recounting her early career milestones including an ABC cadetship and the challenges of navigating the Australian media as a person of Asian heritage. She shares personal anecdotes ranging from professional mishaps at Channel 9 to navigating her mother's mental health crisis. Mimi also reflects on profound family experiences, including a legal battle with her father and the process of excavating her family history. Ultimately, she describes how understanding her parents' struggles as migrants allowed her to move beyond forgiveness toward a state of deep empathy and peace.

13 Oct 2026
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A little girl with a life split in three — how Mimi made it [PART I]

In this episode, Mimi Kwa discusses her memoir, 'House of Kwar', which explores the complex family history involving her father's survival of the Japanese occupation in Hong Kong and her mother's struggle with untreated schizophrenia. The conversation delves into the traumatic childhood experiences of both parents and the impact of these hidden family histories on Mimi's own upbringing. Mimi reflects on the heavy responsibility she felt as a young carer and her diverse upbringing, ranging from life in her father's backpackers hostel to the influence of her Auntie Teresa. She shares how her teenage years were marked by rebellion and academic achievement, eventually finding a sense of self-compassion that integrates her various identities.

12 Oct 2026