The Marketing Millennials

Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro and the Marketer who coined "zero-click content," is back for round 2 to talk about taste.Everyone says great Marketing takes taste, or that taste is the moat against AI. Nobody explains where it comes from. Amanda and Daniel dig into how you build it, and how you prove a post is working when there's no click to track (and the platforms are burying your links anyway). Plus, why you should reverse engineer the comment you want before you hit post, and the hidden cost of publishing just to hit a quota. If you're a Marketer who wants to make content people love to share, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoyed this one? Hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show, and it…

Blake Erickson, Co-Founder of Scaling.com and co-author of The Science of Scaling, says 10x growth is easier than 2x. Daniel wanted to know why. Blake went from missionary work in Peru, to building a 400-rep door-to-door sales company, to helping founders scale. He breaks down what an "impossible goal "looks like for a Marketing team, and how to tell if you're the one slowing everything down. Plus, where AI moves the needle (and where it's just building cool stuff nobody needs), and his answer to the one A player vs. twenty B players debate. If you're a Marketer who wants to scale your channel without just throwing more budget at it, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Enjoyed this one? Hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find…

By kickoff, sports fans already know what they’re buying. If you only show up during the game, you missed your window. Adam Marks, Sports Sales Director at SiriusXM Media, helps brands reach fans in high-attention moments AROUND the game: sports talk, podcasts, streaming, and live events. He’s a 14-year Pandora and SiriusXM vet, a proud (and lonely) Ravens fan, and once launched SiriusXM’s Masters program from his bedroom with a 103 fever.He explains why the best time to reach fans is Monday morning in the car, not Sunday on the couch. He also shares how brands without $50M for a league deal can still own an NFL season, and a story about a no-laptops brainstorm that turned one QSR into one of SiriusXM’s biggest advertisers. If you’re a Marketer who wants in on big sports moments without a Super Bowl-sized budget, this episode is for YOU. If you liked this one, hit follow and leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show.Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the…

Pumping out AI-written filler content could be quietly tanking your site. Daniel explains Google’s new spam update, which flags websites full of low-quality AI content, and why a few strong pieces with real stats beat 200 keyword articles. Jay shares Ahrefs data showing that pages not updated in a year are two times less likely to be cited by AI, and that adding schema made no difference across 1,900 pages. He also explains why listicles are the format AI pulls from most. AI search is acting like the 1995 internet right now: lazy, hungry for fresh content, and drawn to simple formats. If you’re a Marketer who wants to show up in AI answers without getting penalized by Google, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing…

Wait a minute - are you still sending ad traffic to your homepage? Val Riley, VP of Marketing at Unbounce, says Google's noticed, and your landing page might be the reason your ads stop showing up. Val got into Marketing because her writing set her apart, and she was an Unbounce customer at her last 3 companies before she ever worked there. She and Daniel get into what Google's ad quality updates mean for your landing pages, and why changing even a single word per channel can pay off more than a full rebuild would. Plus, the hill Val is willing to die on for every Marketing team (and why most companies won't pay for it). If you're a Marketer who wants landing pages that convert, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ This episode originally aired…

If Gen Z is on your media plan and Roblox isn’t, Stephanie Latham, VP of Global Brand Partnerships and Advertising at Roblox, has some news for you: that math isn't mathing. Stephanie helped build what social advertising looks like at Meta. Now she’s doing it again, on a platform where users spend almost 3 hours a day playing, building, and hanging out with friends. She breaks down the 3 smartest ways brands can show up on Roblox, which 1 to test first, and why teams willing to hand creators the keys tend to win (surprise, surprise). Plus, she tackles the safety question every Marketer (and parent) asks 1st, and how Fenty Beauty turned a Roblox experience into a product you can literally buy at Sephora. If you’re a Marketer who wants to reach Gen Z where they’re spending their free time, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a…

What does your brand SOUND like? (Yep, it has a sound, whether you picked 1 or not.) Steve Keller is the Sonic Strategy Director at Studio Resonate, SiriusXM Media's audio-first creative consultancy. He's also one of the world's top experts on "sonic strategy": helping brands blend art & science to make audio ads and sonic identities that stick. Today on the pod, he shares what an audio ad has to nail in the first few seconds, and the most underused brand asset in Marketing.Plus, how the music playing in a store can change what shoppers buy, and why Steve wants you eating dinner with earplugs in. If you're a Marketer who wants audio ads and a brand sound people remember, this episode is for YOU. If this one has you rethinking your brand's sound, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live…

From now through January, four words decide whether people open your email: outlook, trends, prediction and forecast. Jay explains why everyone wants to know what’s coming and why these words belong in every subject line, webinar title and offer right now. He also shares the content format that pairs with them: an AI-built 2027 calendar for your industry, gated to grow your list, which sees over a 75% lift from October through January. Daniel adds year-end roundups of your best content and your own 2027 predictions. Then they get into the AI tools they actually use. Daniel quietly had Lovable reverse engineer a prompt so he could rebuild a website section in Claude. Jay swears by Wispr Flow for dictation and Gamma for building decks in seconds. They also explain why being scared to share your data with AI is the real risk, and how Meta’s Muse caught Jay paying for NBA League Pass twice without being asked. If you’re a Marketer who wants to own Q4 content, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Jay: LinkedIn:…

What if your ads are only driving 10% of your sales? Sorin Patilinet, Global Marketing Effectiveness Lead at PepsiCo, says most Marketers are measuring the smallest lever they've got. This engineer-turned-Marketer spent 13 years building the Marketing effectiveness practice at Mars before bringing his measurement obsession to PepsiCo. He also literally wrote the book on it.He and Daniel get into why measurement should never start with your data (what??) and what testing hundreds of ads on real brains will reveal about your creative. Plus, why Sorin doesn't trust surveys and the one metric he'd track over engagement. If you're a Marketer who wants to prove your Marketing actually drives sales, this episode is for YOU. If this one changes how you look at your dashboard, hit follow and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on…

What if your next product launch is already going viral on TikTok...before your product even exists? Katelyn Stokes, Marketing Director at Maruchan, uses social listening to find out. She breaks down how a fan hack starring Flamin' Hot Cheetos became a PepsiCo collab, and the very intentional story behind the name Saucy Noods. Plus, why they send a small team everywhere from Coachella to Comic-Con, what fans tell you IRL that they'd never post online, and the one thing Maruchan will NEVER use AI for. If you're a Marketer who wants to turn social chatter into products people actually buy, this episode is for YOU. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ If this 1 hit, follow the show and leave a quick rating. It's the easiest way to help more Marketers find us. Follow…

Q4 inboxes and feeds are about to get crowded, and last quarter's tactics might not be enough to stand out. Jay and Daniel trade the subject line plays they're betting on right now. Daniel puts a specific number like 7, 5, or 8 (never a round 10) at the front of his subject lines, and he mixes lowercase with a single all-caps word. Jay capitalizes the entire first word, like NEW, and opens with the offer in brackets. He also moves emojis to the middle or end of the subject line, or bookends them in the preheader, because a leading emoji causes problems for screen readers. They also break down LinkedIn's new collaborative posts, which push one post into up to five feeds (including company pages) without counting as sponsored. Then they get into why Instagram's new AI agents in Edits are worth using now but could turn everyone's feed into a wall of sameness later. Daniel's workaround is to test new hooks with trial reels so they reach non-followers first. The bigger lesson is that when a platform launches a…

Is it really alllll about follower count when it comes to B2B influencer marketing? It’s not. It’s more about who’s following you, than how many. Vin Matano, Founder of Creatorbuzz, talks about how B2B influencer marketing programs can change brands if used correctly AND strategically. From building a full-funnel strategy to choosing the right creators, it can be the tool your brand needs to scale. Plus, what does a good creator brief actually look like? What makes LinkedIn content stand out? How do you incorporate events IRL into your strategy? Some things may surprise you. Whether you’re a Marketer at a B2B company or someone who wants to know more about B2B influencer marketing, this is the episode for you. Breakthrough 2026 is the Agentic GTM Conference, happening November 2-5 at Fontainebleau Las Vegas. Join 1,300 revenue leaders for three days of real research, hands-on skill-building, and a certification to prove you can apply it. Learn more at https://6sense.com/breakthrough/ Follow Vin: LinkedIn:…

How do you get an entire Super Bowl stadium to sing along to your ad? Peter Giorgi, SVP, Creative Excellence and Brand Experience at Rocket, figured it out...2 weeks before kickoff. After his time at Airbnb and the agency Crispin Porter + Bogusky, Peter helped Rocket stop selling mortgage rates and start selling homeownership, and he and Daniel get into why that idea was just sitting there for the taking in the first place. Plus, a live TV risk that could have fallen completely flat, what happened when Rocket listed an NBA arena on Redfin (and a tornado rolled in), and why a great ad doesn't need a blockbuster budget. And his Marketing hill to die on? Let's just say AI won't love it.If you're a Marketer who wants to build brand campaigns people actually feel, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one has you humming Country Roads. It helps more Marketers find the show.-- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it…

Marketers are quietly sleeping on one of the biggest data sets out there: prediction markets. Jay explains how Kalshi and Polymarket work like a giant survey on almost any topic, except people are putting real money behind their answers, which makes the results unusually accurate. He also shares the exact prompt to use in ChatGPT, Claude, or Gemini. Tell it your audience, have it search Kalshi and Polymarket for five active, non-political, non-sports markets that signal what that audience will care about in the next 3 to 12 months, then ask for content ideas. He also explains why you should never try to dig through those sites yourself. Daniel explains why now is the perfect time to publish forward-looking 2027 content, and how prediction data lets you pair thought leadership with real numbers you can link out to. The bigger idea is that surveys capture what people say, while money shows what they actually think, so always follow the money. If you're a Marketer who wants to get ahead of what your audience…

Should your AI agents have job titles? Today, Daniel, Kris Rudeegraap, Co-CEO of Sendoso, and Jessica Vose, Head of Marketing at Kana, debate the best way to build AI Marketing agents: role-based digital colleagues or one Marketing operating layer that connects everything. Kris shares how Sendoso went from hundreds of invisible automations to agents with managers and performance reviews, and why building them was actually the easiest part. Plus, Jessica breaks down where the Marketer stays in the loop, the 2 use cases CMOs, AI leaders, and data leaders all agree on, and why Marketing needs a seat at the table before someone else picks your AI stack.If you're a Marketer who wants to build AI agents that actually work, this episode is for YOU. Enjoyed this one? Follow the show and leave a rating. It helps more Marketers find us (and honestly makes my whole week). -- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach…

How do you take a brand born in LA and make New Yorkers feel like it was made just for them? Jena Wolfe, VP of Marketing at Goop Kitchen (https://www.goopkitchen.com), has figured it out. Jena started out writing restaurant listings for a New York magazine, spent almost 15 years running her own creative agencies, and is now Goop Kitchen's first-ever VP of Marketing (and her first time on the brand side). Since joining, she's taken the brand from California to New York and opened its very first dine-in location in Del Mar. Daniel and Jena talk about how Goop Kitchen decides what's sacred to the brand, why the menu didn't change one bit for New York, and why the launch campaign cast local icons like the New York Liberty's Jonquel Jones and PR legend Kelly Cutrone instead of chasing the most famous names in the city. Plus, how to pick your moments with a celebrity founder like Gwyneth Paltrow, what changes when a delivery-first brand finally gets a physical space, and the one lesson about local Marketing Jena…

Your landing page is probably leaking visitors, and the fixes are smaller than you think. Jay and Daniel break down how to increase conversions on those pages and offer pages, from the fields you force people to fill out to the button nobody can find. Plus, why every extra must-fill field silently costs you registrants, where to put social proof so it actually does something, and the 1 thing on your page that sends 30% of visitors running for the exit. Plus, a HEATED debate about airplane hygiene and the birth of Jay's new favorite word. If you're a Marketer who wants more conversions without building anything new, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show, leave us a rating, and we'll see you at the next one. --- Follow Jay: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/⁠ Do This, Not That Podcast: https://www.jayschwedelson.com/podcast Follow Daniel: YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured⁠ Twitter: ⁠https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68⁠ LinkedIn:…

If likes don't matter anymore, how do you measure organic social? How do you find great social creators BEFORE they blow up? How do you make a Super Bowl ad about uh, intimate men's grooming, when you can't say "balls" on TV?? Jori Evans, Director of Social at Manscaped, has figured out the answers to a lot of mysteries, and she joined the pod to share her wisdom. Originally aired in January, this episode has everything from how MANSCAPED ran their viral campaigns like "Face Pics vs. D*** Pics," how meme culture drives brand conversions, and what it's like threading the needle between your bold brand voice and STRICT network TV standards...especially if you're hitting the airwaves on the Super Bowl for the first time. If you're a Marketer who wants to build organic social that actually breaks through, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one made you laugh and think. It helps more Marketers find the show. Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the…

Want a reason to be optimistic about the future of Marketing jobs? Duarte Garrido, Co-Founder of DOJO AI, makes a pretty great case for why great Marketers are about to matter more than ever. He ran Marketing for over a decade at giants like Coca-Cola and Sky, then set out to rebuild the broken Martech stack from scratch. He and Daniel talk about the difference between automation and intelligence, why Duarte can smell AI copy from 10 miles away, and why he says everything AI touches becomes a commodity...except this 1 thing it still can't do. If you're a Marketer who wants to use AI without turning your work into slop, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave a rating if this one got your brain going. It helps more Marketers find the show. -- Own every listening moment with SiriusXM Media. As the access point to the most valuable audiences, we make it easy for advertisers to reach people across premium audio, creators, video, and live experiences—all through one connected ecosystem that's built for…

AI summaries pull an average of just 29 words from your email, so every word in that window counts. Jay's formula for the first 150 to 200 characters is action plus product plus deadline, things like "Shop 40% off all Nike running shoes through Sunday at midnight" or "Register for the 2027 HR compliance briefing by Friday," and testing it is driving a 19% increase in click through rates. Bullet points matter even more: bulleted content gets pulled into AI summaries 77% of the time in Gmail, 84% in Apple Mail, and 92% in Microsoft Copilot. Daniel argues Marketing headlines need to evolve too, since vague hooks like "this is crazy" lose their punch once AI strips away the context. He and Jay also unpack a MediaPost survey showing over 70% of people are comfortable with AI scanning their inbox for deals and recommendations, though Daniel notes businesses are far warier about AI reading emails with internal strategy. The bigger idea: email Marketing is being rebuilt around what AI can actually read, and the…

After years of digital everything, audiences are craving something real again…and Haley Janisch knows exactly how to deliver it. As the Head of Creator Community at Kit, Haley has built experiences like Craft and Commerce and Kit Studios that connect creators beyond the screen. In this episode, Haley joins Tamara to unpack the art and strategy behind unforgettable events. They explore why offline connection matters more than ever, how to design experiences that stick in people’s minds, and the small details that make a huge difference. You’ll also hear the story behind ConvertKit’s Taylor Swift–themed studios, why vulnerability creates stronger communities, and how smart marketers should rethink the ROI of events. If you’ve ever wondered how to build moments people can feel (not just attend) this episode is your blueprint. Follow Haley: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicek/ Follow Tamara: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:…

How do you land on a name when you're staring down fifty thousand options, and none of them feel right? Katie Miserany, Chief Communications Officer and Global Head of Marketing at SurveyMonkey, just led the naming and go-to-market for Launchpad, SurveyMonkey's new suite of market research tools built for Marketers with zero research background. Katie joined the company on the communications side, worked her way up to Chief of Staff, and took over the newly combined Marketing and Communications function about a year ago. And, Katie breaks down the six-step framework her team used to name Launchpad, why they started with a brief instead of a brainstorm, and how deciding who the product was NOT for (professional researchers who could build it themselves in SurveyMonkey) sharpened the name, the positioning, and the entire go-to-market. She also walks through how the internal debate between "SurveyMonkey Launch" and "SurveyMonkey Methods" got settled, not by whoever had the loudest opinion in the room, but by…

AI is already reading your emails before your subscribers do, and if you're not writing for it, your message might not make it to the inbox at all. Jay breaks down "live text," the actual HTML text in your email that AI tools like Gmail summaries and Microsoft Copilot scan to build inbox previews and rewrite preheaders. Copilot alone just hit 30 million paid users, up 10 million in a single month, so this isn't a niche problem. Jay's rule: the first 150 characters of your email need to carry your most important, most specific information (webinar details, offer terms, whatever the ask is) because that's the window AI summaries pull from. Images and JPEGs don't count, and alt text doesn't count as live text either, no matter what you've been told. He predicts that within six months, half of all preheaders will be AI generated instead of whatever Marketers actually wrote. Daniel adds that the preheader isn't dead, it's just unreliable now. His fix: write your opening body copy so it echoes what you'd want the…

Mark Jung, Founder at Known and LinkedIn growth expert, joins the podcast to break down how to win on LinkedIn in 2026, from the new positive-signal-only feed, the LLM-trained algorithm, to the bio changes nobody is talking about. Listen to find out how your bio now matters more than your follower count, and how a brand-new creator with 50 followers can get the reach of someone with 50,000. Plus, get the link, hook, and posting moves Mark and Daniel use, and what cohort seeding is (and why it's choosing who sees your content). If your LinkedIn reach has dropped, your content performance feels inconsistent, or you're just tired of guessing what works, this episode is for you. Follow the show and drop a rating if this one leveled up your LinkedIn. It helps more people find us. [This episode originally aired in January 2026] Follow Mark: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markpjung/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter:…

A logo on a jersey doesn't cut it anymore. So, how do the best brands decide if a sports sponsorship deal is worth the money? Daniel sits down with a panel that's seen every side of the deal: Sam Kilgore of Sponsor United, Marquise Watts (Who's worked with Under Armor, Adidas, & the Minnesota Timberwolves), Chris Lobono of Athlete Driven Worldwide, and Elliot Christiansen of Cleveland Construction.They get into why "the logo slap" is dying and what's replacing it, how brands move at the speed of culture (see Levi's cutout logo and the Heinz tape at the World Cup), and the real way to measure ROI when only 28% of fans can name a jersey patch. Plus Marquise's rule for every deal he touches: all money ain't good money.If you're a Marketer who wants to make sponsorships actually pay off, this episode is for YOU. Hit follow and leave us a rating if you're into it, it helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter:…

There's a way to pull the most viral posts in your niche in about 10 seconds. But a lot of Marketers don't know it exists.In this Bathroom Break, Jay and Daniel break down how to mine X (formerly Twitter) for viral content you can actually use. Daniel shares the exact Grok prompt he uses to surface trending posts from the last 48 hours. Jay walks through X's advanced search, and the "min_faves" trick that filters for only the posts hitting your engagement threshold. Then they go deeper: filtering by retweets, comments, date ranges, and media type to see exactly which hooks are landing. Plus: a lost loafer mystery, a linen shirt betrayal, and Jay's full descent into his "embarrassing loser phase."If you're a Marketer who wants a repeatable way to find what content actually works, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and drop a review, Daniel reads every one and it makes his whole day.Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow…

Adam McQueen of Klue built an entire in-house media network, the Compete Network, to prove B2B brands (and their content) don't have to be boring.He sits down with guest host Tamara Grominsky on why people follow people, not brands, and how to make B2B content people actually want to watch.Plus the "plumbing" that keeps a lean team shipping, and the "trophy room" trick Adam uses to prove ROI when there's no clean dollar figure.If you're a Marketer who wants to turn content into entertainment that drives real pipeline, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Follow The Marketing Millennials and leave us a rating, it helps more Marketers find the show.Enjoying the pod? Follow and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Adam:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adam-mcqueen/Follow Tamara:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaragrominsky/Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials

Is SEO dead? Ross Simmonds, CEO & Founder of Foundation Marketing, says that's the wrong fight. In today's episode, Ross breaks down AI search, AEO, and how to get your brand cited by ChatGPT, Claude, and Perplexity. He also asks the real question: what happens AFTER you publish.Also: why Reddit is STILL the most underrated channel in Marketing, how to measure your AI visibility (from share of voice, to referral traffic, and the "how did you hear about us" trick), and the 1 silo problem invisibly killing most marketing teams.If you're a Marketer who wants to get found in AI search without drowning in content slop, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Follow and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Ross:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosssimmonds/Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials…

Are there Marketing "best practices" costing you signups? (Yes.) Jay and Daniel call out 2 email tactics that are officially dying: double opt-in + requiring a work email to access your content. Jay breaks down the data on how double opt-in loses you 30 to 40% of your list AND spikes spam complaints. Daniel makes the case for personal emails over business ones (and why gating content behind a work address tanks conversions and retargeting). Plus, a Bob the Builder origin story, 1 demoralizing dorm dresser, and why a kid's toy needs 10 tools you probably don't own.If you're a Marketer who wants to stop following rules that hurt your list, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and leave us a review, Daniel reads every single one and it genuinely makes his day.Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn:…

What happens when customers stop visiting your website and start buying straight from an AI chat?Ryan Gavin, CMO at Slack (part of Salesforce), joins Daniel to break down how AI agents are rewriting the Marketing playbook, from lead routing to content QA to the agent first internet.Plus: how 1 engineering agent saved a quarter of a million hours, how Ryan's team grades every piece of content with AI before it ever hits his inbox, and how every Marketer can shift gears from manual "doer" to strategic orchestrator.If you're a Marketer who wants to future proof your team for an AI and agent first world, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and leave us a rating if you're loving the pod. It helps more Marketers find us.Follow Ryan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-gavin-seattle/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketingSign up for The Marketing Millennials…

If execution is cheap now, what should Marketers really be getting paid for?Marvin Chow runs Marketing for Search, Gemini, and AI at Google, and he says the hire of the year is a Marketing engineer: a Marketer who thinks like a systems architect (not a project manager. Love you, project managers.).He breaks down the "barbell" reshaping every Marketing team, why taste and judgment are suddenly the premium skills, and how to actually show up in AI search as SEO, AEO, and GEO collapse into one. Plus, his brand bank rule and the AI sparring trick that puts Ogilvy and Olivia Pope on your board of directors.If you're a Marketer who wants to future-proof your role in the age of AI, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and leave a rating if this one gave you something to steal. It helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Marvin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therealmarvin/ Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn:…

Did you notice? The copy-paste era just ended. Jay and Daniel break down the "AI watch out era": Claude and ChatGPT are now baking watermarks into the text and images they generate, so your AI content can get spotted the second it goes live. Also: why this might actually be good news if you can make original work, why Claude just became a 1st-draft tool instead of a shortcut, and the Canva and screenshot moves Jay swears are still sailing past the detectors. (Plus beignet-related powdered sugar chaos and a cautionary tale about boarding a flight without your travel buddy.)If you're a Marketer who wants to keep using AI without getting dinged for it, this episode is for YOU.Follow Jay:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featuredTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:…

Andrew LeRay, Director of Brand Marketing at NWSL, is trying to close the gap between people who instantly recognize those four letters and people who still ask what they stand for.He breaks down where building a brand for a sports league is different than building 1 for a product, how the players become the brand, and how a Call Her Daddy cameo and a hydration partnership with Alex Cooper's Unwell became one of the league's biggest growth unlocks.Plus what changes when you go from a 150-year legacy brand like MLB to a self-described challenger brand only 3 years into its current era, and the Marketing hill Andrew will die on.If you're a Marketer who wants to build something people actually recognize, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and drop us a rating if this one lands. It genuinely helps us book bigger guests.Follow Andrew: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewleray/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68…

What if your whole Marketing plan was really just 1 big math problem?Amanda Cole, CMO at Bloomreach, breaks down pipeline math: how to start with a revenue number and work backwards to the win rate, budget, and headcount that'll get you there.Plus, why she plans off median win rate instead of the average, and why she splits targets when a vertical converts seven points lower than the core.She and Daniel also get into how pipeline math turns a tense sales negotiation into a calm one. (Want 10x coverage? Here's what it costs you in reps you can't hire.)Finally, she makes the case that briefs don't matter anymore, why she handed her CEO direct access to the data and stopped writing reports (including the AI stack behind it all).If you're a Marketer who wants to tie every dollar you spend back to revenue, this episode is for YOU.Hit follow and drop us a rating if this one lands. It genuinely helps us book bigger guests.Follow Amanda:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandajoycole/ Follow Daniel:YouTube:…

It's July, but the smart money is already building content for 2027. You have about 60 days before the window opens, and the good news is, you probably have most of what you need to get started now. Jay and Daniel break down the exact content to have ready before October hits, why calendars are the format that gets consumed the most in Q4, how to remix content you already have instead of starting from scratch, and why adding 2027 recency signals to your resources page gets you pulled into AI answers before your competitors. If you're a Marketer who wants to prime their pipeline before 2027, this episode is for YOU. Hit play, then follow the show and leave a comment. It helps more than you'd think. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials…

Email isn’t dead. But most Marketers are measuring it the wrong way. Daniel sits down with Naomi West, Senior Product Marketing Manager at Customer.io, to break down what actually makes a “good” email and why beautiful design, open rates, and fancy templates aren’t the metrics you should be obsessing over. From why web design trends fall apart inside the inbox, to why text-based emails often outperform heavily designed ones, Naomi unpacks the myths that are holding email marketers back. They also dive into lifecycle strategy, event-triggered emails, working with engineers, testing frameworks that actually produce statistically significant results, and why communication skills might matter more than any tool you use. If you’re an email marketer who wants to move beyond templates and start driving real engagement and conversions, this is the episode for YOU. Follow Naomi: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomiwest1000/⁠ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/⁠ Sign…

Every school is on social media. Almost none of them have built anything like what MIT has. Daniel sits down with Jenny Fowler, Director of Social Media Strategy at MIT and author of a book on organic social media, to break down the playbook behind growing the university's following to more than 7 million people across platforms, entirely organic, in a category most brands would consider one of the hardest to win. Jenny walks through her six M framework (mission, message, medium, management, metrics, monitoring) and why "medium," picking the one platform you can actually dominate, is the piece most brands skip first. She also explains why she refuses to chase algorithm changes, staying the course on strategy even when the numbers dip, because reacting to every shift means the algorithm never actually learns your audience. Plus, Jenny breaks down her "dream team" structure for a social department (a director, a manager, and specialist creators instead of platform experts), why social needs to sit at director…

We moved on to Instagram, TikTok, and LinkedIn. Meanwhile, the original mother of all social media platforms is low-key turning into one of the best, cheapest channels to reach your audience.Yep, we're talking about FACEBOOK.Jay and Daniel break down why Facebook is worth another look, and what's working there right now. They get into Facebook groups as the 1 community play that still delivers (and why Meta's new Forums app signals where the platform is headed), how brands like Dad Gang use groups for launches and product testing, and why Facebook gives them the lowest cost per registration and the highest show-up rate for B2B events.If you're a Marketer who wants underpriced attention and a channel your competitors are skipping, this episode is for YOU. Hit play, then follow the show and drop a rating. It helps more than you'd think. Follow Jay: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schwedelson/ Podcast: Do This, Not That Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured…

Eric Zenz, VP of Product Management at Salesforce, leads Agentforce Marketing, and he's here to explain what an AI agent should really be doing for Marketers.Plus, why 75% of Marketers have adopted AI but their output hasn't moved an inch, and the 1 thing that separates a useless agent from an outstanding one. And finally, the AI hill Eric will die on (spoiler: it comes down to your data).If you're a Marketer who wants to understand how AI agents actually fit into your team, this episode is for YOU.Do me a favor: follow The Marketing Millennials and leave a rating. Takes ten seconds and helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Eric: LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/ericzenz/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce…

How do you make plain water feel like a $300 fragrance?Allison Cullman, SVP of Marketing at Hint Water, joins Daniel to break down a campaign that turned hydration into pure desire (and why it worked). She explains why wellness got exhausting for consumers, so Hint stopped selling zero sugar and zero calories and started selling to emotions.Plus the brand's first OnlyFans page, placements from Love Island to Esther Perel, and why building future demand beats chasing the sale in front of you. If you're a Marketer who wants to take a bolder brand swing, this episode is for YOU.Do yourself a favor and hit follow so you never miss an episode, and drop us a rating while you're at it. It genuinely helps.Follow Allison: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/allison-cullman-03829731/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:…

Your best content ideas and warmest leads are already sitting in data you forgot you had. Jay and Daniel break down "AI ingestion": feeding transcripts, LinkedIn exports, and CRM data into tools like Claude so your AI actually knows your business and stays up-to-date. Daniel shares his exact prompt for turning one podcast transcript into clips, hooks, and subject lines that get watched past three seconds. Jay reveals the LinkedIn data trick that exports every connection, DM, and comment, then ranks who to reach out to first. Plus why your tools need an API connection or you'll fall behind. If you're a Marketer who wants to squeeze more content and more leads out of data you already own, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying Bathroom Break? Follow the show and drop us a rating, it genuinely helps more Marketers find us. Now go follow The Marketing Millennials. Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/ Follow Jay: LinkedIn:…

What if you managed AI agents like employees? Brandon Metcalf, CEO and Founder of Asymbl, built a hybrid workforce of humans and digital workers doing exactly that.Brandon talks to Daniel about how he treats AI agents like new hires, names and job descriptions included. Plus: the human SDR who got so good at managing an agent he got promoted to AE and closed 11 deals his first month. And how Asymbl hired 100 people in 100 days, out of 17,000 applications...with one single human recruiter.If you're a Marketer who wants to understand how AI agents and humans actually work together, this episode is for YOU.Enjoying the pod? Give us a follow and drop a rating, it helps more Marketers find the show.Follow Brandon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/metcalf/Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter:…

Most brands would kill for the loyalty Stretch Zone gets from members who show up two or three times a week…and it all started with a category that didn't exist yet. Daniel sits down with Lindsey McFadden, CMO of Stretch Zone, to break down how she grew the brand from 60 locations to 425, with zero closures, ever. Lindsey walks through why "your first stretch is free" became the backbone of the entire acquisition strategy, and how you educate a market into a habit that didn't exist before you built it. Lindsey shares how Stretch Zone keeps hundreds of franchise owners rowing in the same direction with playbooks so simple she calls them "Fisher Price easy," one page campaign briefs, and a real estate team that heat maps every territory before a franchise agreement is ever signed. Plus, Lindsey explains why AI front desk agents are quietly failing her franchisees (one generated an ad with a leg bent completely backwards), and why her Marketing hill to die on is simple: AI's not gonna run your business for you.…

Your subject lines might be too clean, too correct, and too polished to actually get opened. Jay and Daniel go through their favorite subject line tactics, and most of them break every "best practice" rule you've ever heard. Daniel swears by emojis, unfinished sentences that trail off with ellipses, and odd numbers like 7, 9, or 13 instead of round ones. He also calls out his audience directly in the subject line ("For Marketers who...") and says it crushes every time he uses it. Jay counters with what he calls "un-AI" subject lines: intentionally long subject lines (100+ characters) that fill the whole line and get cut off on purpose, ellipses at the start of a subject line instead of the end (a 15% lift in open rates), and skipping capitalization entirely. His logic: if AI would never suggest it, it probably stands out. They also get into serialized numbering (numbering your newsletter editions so people notice when they miss one and go back to read it) and "vault content," repackaging your best existing…

Phil Treagus-Evans, Co-Founder and CEO of Giraffe Social, is not anti-AI (he uses it every day). He’s anti-LAZY AI. You know, the copy-pasted slop currently flooding your feed. So how do you dial up your human-ness…and build trust in the process? Phil and Daniel talk about why people trust people and not brands, how to turn your own team into your highest-performing Marketing channel, and the 1 metric he says matters most even though you can't actually measure it. Plus, how boring Marketing is secretly the riskiest. If you're a Marketer who wants to cut through the AI noise and keep people at the center, this episode is for YOU. --- Follow Phil: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/phil-treagus-evans & check out his book, Human First Marketing --- Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. 🎧 Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn:…

Paul Reiss dropped out of college to build Protein Pints, and then scaled it from 1 store to 15,000 in just three years. His strategy: deliberately pumping the brakes on Marketing so the brand wouldn't blow up before it could actually deliver. Paul and Daniel get into why going viral too early can sink a young brand, how to know when to hold back versus hit the gas, and the 1 question he says every product has to answer before you scale it. If you're a Marketer or founder who wants to know when to market and when to wait, this episode is for YOU! Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: ⁠www.workweek.com/brand/the-marketing-millennials⁠ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: ⁠www.workweek.com⁠ --- Follow Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-reiss-7060381b7/ Follow Daniel: YouTube:…

Most of what you're measuring in email Marketing is noise, and the signals that actually predict pipeline are hiding in places you're probably not even looking. Daniel breaks down why every email needs a honeypot link, an invisible link that only bots click, so you can strip out fake engagement before you ever look at your real numbers. He also makes the case for tracking every CTA separately, since the people who click a button at the bottom of an email are reading more of it and often move faster to pipeline than people who click the first thing at the top. He also talks about using AI to track reply rates and pull specific language out of replies to build first party data, and points out that replies quietly boost your email deliverability too. Jay adds a list of intent signals most teams ignore completely: an emoji reaction during a webinar, any interaction with a chatbot no matter what someone types, and more than 10 seconds spent on a pricing page. He says shoppers who click a bottom CTA show a…

Alex Rynne has spent 10 years inside LinkedIn as a Senior Content Marketing Manager. She and Daniel talk about what's working on the platform in 2026, why most B2B brands are boring when they don't have to be, and why the "post just to post" habit is drowning everyone in a sea of sameness. Plus: the content format Alex ranks #1 (it's probably not the one you post most), the 20/80 rule her team swears by, and the LinkedIn move that quietly turned her side videos into top converters. If you're a Marketer who wants to actually grow on LinkedIn instead of shouting into the void, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Alex: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrarynne/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing Sign up for The Marketing Millennials…

Kelly Cheng, CMO at Goldcast, joins Daniel to talk trust, mind share, and how B2B Marketing can break through when the internet is drowning in AI slop. In a feed full of AI avatars and synthetic everything, the stuff that actually earns trust is the stuff AI can't manufacture. What breaks through in a feed full of AI content, and how do you scale it without turning into slop yourself? Kelly and Daniel get into why buyers' shortlists are shrinking even as their options explode, the one thing AI still can't fake (hint: it starts with a T), and the "lazy Marketer" trap that's quietly wrecking teams. If you're a Marketer trying to win mind share and build real trust in the age of AI, this episode is for YOU. Enjoying the pod? Do Daniel a favor and hit follow, then leave a quick rating. It helps more Marketers find the show. Follow Kelly: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellyhcheng/ Follow Daniel: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@themarketingmillennials/featured Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/Dmurr68…

If you're making budget decisions based on how each channel looks on its own, you're working with an incomplete picture. Daniel breaks down why blended CAC should be the number your whole operation runs against. Blended CAC is your total marketing spend divided by total customers acquired across every channel. It gives you room to invest in longer-term channels without panicking when one silo looks off, and it stops you from killing channels that are quietly lifting conversions everywhere else. Jay admits he runs everything in silos, channel by channel, and uses that to shift budget toward whatever's performing. Daniel pushes back: you need both. The blended number is your north star. The silos are your diagnostic tool. When blended CAC starts creeping up, that's when you go channel by channel to figure out what's wrong. The bigger idea: attribution will always make some channels look better than they are. Blended CAC cuts through that and shows you the real cost of growing your business. If you want a…